UG: a Unique Guy

Spiritual Ashes U G Krishnamurti, popularly called and known as UG by his admirers is no more, but in a sense he is “more” now in this world, such is the power and penetration of his words and wits that he has left and impacted on the trackless track of this world. It just catches “fire” and nothing less or more. Eventhough through rotten traditional lense UG appeared to be a Useless Guy, in a clean lense UG is forever a Unique Guy. As a humble admirer, at least I felt like expressing these words, not for praising UG, but just for my conviction, for that crazy UG doesn’t want people to remember and worship him both when he is alive as well as dead.

The contemporaries JK, Osho , and UG are unique in their own way in hammering this mad world. May the breed of these Unique Guys live more on this beautiful earth.

The links:
UG Obituary: Final Remembering
UG Swan Song

An Artistic Sketch of UG:

Ikuru's artistic conquest of UG! This is the art work ‘lovingly’ created by IKURU, who I understand, is an attached as well as detached remote admirer of UG too. Remote in the sense, he never had a chance to meet UG physically, only once he spoke with UG on phone, it seems. That reflects in this UG painting that he has created here. Ikuru always loves and adds more humors amidst the so called tumorous journey of our life. I would like to add a note that this ‘art piece’ is not hosted here in appreciation or ‘worshipping’ of UG, but rather as an appreciation of human expression of art and beauty. May long live our ‘heart and art’!

P Sulochanan
sulochanp@gmail.com

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994 Responses to UG: a Unique Guy

  1. Madhu says:

    Ramana and Ramakrishna are supposed to have experienced death like experiences in their life. These two are quite remarkable persons but somehow they could not completely break away from the tradition.

  2. Madhu says:

    When Mahesh Bhatt metioned to UG about how he picked him up literally from the streets and made him to become what he is now, UG answered him by saying, “What I did to you, you do it for the others”.

  3. sulochanosho says:

    Etienne! How r u? Happy to hear you again here.

    As you rightly pointed out, this blog is going on a long long journey, churning out nothing. And ‘that nothing’ is just our life, it seems.

    Our life remains ditched as long as we dont ditch this ‘transformation bitch’ at one stroke. The choice is ours. Transformation is never ‘attained’, rather tramsformation is ‘retained’. ‘What we are’ is transformation; what we are struggling to become is deformation and diversion in the name of that great attainment and transformation.

    Perhaps, UG goes as a unique eccentric guy, who debunked all these futile spirituality, holiness, god-realization, enlightenment ‘shits’ gathered around there for many centuries. Life is an ever living force. It’s a mockery as well as an insult to see our life thru the thick lenses of accumulated dead debris of godmen, holy men, scriptures, sermons and religions. Why the hell a new born baby is to be pumped in with those ‘dead holy shits and sermons’? It’s ugly and disrespect to the very life force in the first place. It’s the greatest crime committed on the humanity and the very life force of this existence.

  4. sulochanosho says:

    The so called enlightenment state has not even an iota of religions, sermons, scriptures, holiness or spirituality, gods and godmen in it. That’s it.

  5. Madhu says:

    “this blog is going on a long long journey, churning out nothing. ”

    Thank God, then.

    Any thing churned out of this blog would be a product of thoughts and hence destructive.

    This blog remains fresh as long as we put our real and alive problems and throbbing feelings in it and see them freshly rather than making this place a scientific lab for finding the solutions.

  6. Etienne says:

    Thanks for the warm welcome Sulochan. I’m thrilled to read your comments along with Madhu’s. On the other hand, I find myself coming here for “an escape out of a boring or too ordinary life”, as Ikuru said. I’m just too much intrigued and even obsessed by these spiritual transformations, whatever spiritual means. I just find myself in that dilemma of “do or die” as in “evolve or die”, and I just feel as if I was a laboratory*. We are bound to play the game.

  7. Etienne says:

    I meant a laboratory rat*, sorry

  8. Madhu says:

    Indeed, rats are more intelligent than human species.

    sulochanosho adds:

    Rats are more intelligent, because they dont know the thing of interfering into their intelligence system to boost and enhance it. Where as we human species are just not allowing our natural intelligence to function; rather in the name of false salvations and solutions we are blunting it continuously.

  9. Madhu says:

    “an escape out of a boring or too ordinary life” was in fact my feeling expressed long back.

    But the frustration in us has more life and energy than our ‘repeated words and phrases’.

  10. ikuru says:

    hey boys and girls you should check out “the Dog whisperer” with Cesar Millan its really basic living.

    sulochanosho adds:

    It’s about taming and calmimg of dogs and dog-owners (thanks, only dogs, not gods!). However, these dogs are no more to be considered as normal dogs but the human tainted dogs turned to be neurotic, erotic and ferocious thanks to the rich exposure to rich human culture and style.

    It’s being aired on National Geographic Channel too. Links: dogwhisperer or on National Geographic Channel

  11. sulochanosho says:

    The other side of the sad state is that the statistics reveal:

    Each day over 25,000 people are dying just from hunger across the globe.

    This existence showers and flowers in abundance and plenty. Poverty is the mankind-created perversion and diversion. Our religions, politics, faiths, sciences however advanced they claim to be, have failed to see the ‘abundance’ of this existence.

  12. Madhu says:

    Except human species, the rest of the species living in this planet have neither psychological nor sexual problems.

    Pet animals do have an exception!

  13. Madhu says:

    In the final analysis, it’s our desperate fight against the aching loneliness.
    It is a losing battle.

  14. sulochanosho says:

    By Default and Fault:

    On this planet earth all the species are functioning on a co-existence prinicple ‘by default’, but human species are functioning on a distinct, extinction and destruction way ‘by fault’.

  15. sulochanosho says:

    A good humor!

    Under the spam category the following lines were received from one named as: uxetenuzbes. But I could not make out whether it’s a real one or simply spam. But the lines are humorous. This may be in reaction to Ikuru’s “the Dog whisperer” with Cesar Millan. Here go the lines:

    Once there was a liitle boy in church. He had to go to the bathroom so he told his mother, ”Mommy, I have to piss.”
    The mother said, ”Son don’t say piss in church. Next time you have to piss, say, ‘whisper’ because it is more polite.
    The next Sunday, the litle boy was sitting by his father this time, and once again, he had to go to the bathroom.
    He told his father, ”Daddy I have to whisper.”
    The father said, ”OK. Here, whisper in my ear.”

  16. Madhu says:

    Why do I feel lonely inspite of family, office, job, etc…

    Loneliness drives me to be restless.

    We feel everything is hunky dory if we shun the doors to the society and live in Himalayas, but after going there we may become more restless and feel like coming back to the society.

    The fact is that there is a struggle within us. Longing to be in solitude and at the same time being aftraid of loneliness. I am caught up in these two opposite feelings.

    Someone interpreted the wrod “alone” as “all in one”. It is all nonsense.

    The fact is the ache of loneliness and it never goes. Philosophy flows out from that pain like the blood oozes from the wound.

  17. sulochanosho says:

    Madhu presents there a valid point. The plague of loneliness! It’s not just some body’s story or pain. The whole humanity is affraid of loneliness and the whole lot of our churned out explorations, solutions are to address this “fear”, this “loneliness”.

    The other way, it seems, the simple reality is: ‘this existence functions on a non-secure paradigm’. Man is searching continuously for solutions to secure his “eternity”, to seal his etrnity and security. The false goals and false fears can have only flase solutions and ghosts to address it. And the mankind is happy with false problems and false solutions – at least they are engaged in that way. We invite false fears and problems; and we expect “real” solutions. And the ‘eternal calamity’ continues. Godmen, Gurus, Priests, Politicians and all in the established powers take this as a rich fertile land to harvest their vested greed and agenda.

    Aloneness is the only reality of this existence. We fail to face aloneness, and instead try to find ‘false solutions’ for that – escape into Himalayas, Guruworld, Marriage world, Meditation world, Undergroundworlds, and so many escape-worlds are there. But onething is sure, wherever you go, YOU ARE THERE! You can not escape that. And one day you see that directly and that’s the end of all these false journeys, movements, turmoils.

    (As you all know, ‘loneliness’ and ‘aloneness’ are not one and the same. loneliness is ‘ugly’, aloneness is ‘beautiful’! Guess, this is not one more nonsense, as Madhu points out there.)

  18. sulochanosho says:

    The Doctor in the 21st Century:

    The other day I came across a booklet entitled, ‘The Doctor in the 21st Century’ by Dr. P.K.Sethi (the Jaipur Foot fame doctor). It gives an interesting reading here and there among other things. Randomly I picked these lines/passages there:

    ‘The healer who provided comfort and support to the sick is becoming a relic of the past. We may have become more efficient but, in the process, somewhere down the line, we have become less humane’.

    I am sure we are paying too little attention and respect to the built-in durability and sheer power of the human organism. Its surest tendency is towards stability and balance. It is a distortion, with something profoundly disloyal about it, to picture the human being as a tottering, fallible contraption, always needing watching and patching, always on the verge of falling to pieces. This is the doctrine that people hear most often – and most eloquently – in all our information media. We ought to develop a much better system for general education about human health, with much more curriculum time for the acknowledgement, even celebration, of the absolute marvel of good health that is the lot of most of us, most of the time. Most ailments get better by themselvs; many, by the next morning.’

  19. sulochanosho says:

    And one more passage from the source mentioned above:

    ‘As a profession, we have not only failed to fight against the falsehood perpetuated by the drug industry but we have, in fact, become partners in their profit-making enterprise – and with what trivial bribes of small gifts and dinners! The chapter entitled “The Pill-Pedlars” by David Gould, a former editor of New Scientist, in his book The Medical Mafia, is an absolute eye-opener. The entire continuing education of most doctors is through the sales literature freely distributed by our drug industry. And our public knows it. How, then, can we expect the respect and goodwill of our patients?’

  20. Madhu says:

    The xecerpts from the article of PK Sethi is quite interesting. Thanks Sulochan, for publishing it in the blog.

  21. Madhu says:

    Any body here knows about “John L. Waters “?

    sulochanosho adds:

    There are more than one persons by Name, John L. Waters! Any way I have picked thse ones:
    You may explore it here:
    Link(1)
    Link(2)

  22. Madhu says:

    I found the truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “It is the GOAL that is stifling you”

    Kick the goal out and live an aimless and GOAL less life with every moment enjoying and surprising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lemme bring up my two daughters in that way !

    Sulochan and Ikuru wish me happiness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23. Madhu says:

    Sulochan and Ikuru, Wish me happiness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Madhu says:

    Let us not lash ourselves with the teachings of Buddha to Ramana, OSHO JK, and UG etc……………….

  25. Madhu says:

    It is a sadonic pleasure to subject oneself to sort of methodology or structured process or to some ideology or some rigid teachings.

  26. Etienne says:

    I wish you happiness Madhu!

  27. Etienne says:

    The world is crazy and I sometimes believe that the only sensible thing to do would be to commit suicide.

  28. sulochanosho says:

    Thank you Etienne , for wishing HAPPINESS to Madhu.
    Please don’t commit suicide, let the Socreteses or Jesuses do that. I need you!

    One thing at this juncture I would like to note that just because of Madhu’s outpouring on a non-stop spree till today, this blog has remained active and alive. I do not know about tomorrow.

    Of course, our non-serious friend Ikuru made several vibrant movements, each time with his own new ‘kicks’ or ‘tricks’, here. Right now not to be seen. Must be blissfully ‘snoring’ somewhere! No offending please.

    Thanks and love to all.

    By the way, let me wish UNHAPPINESS to Madhu for too much lust for HAPPINESS is as good as inviting unhappiness. May the Existence bless all in whatever way it takes or moves. I always luv a small dose of unhappiness fot that is what that keeps me alert and awake.

  29. Madhu says:

    There is some sort of joy which has nothing to lose and nothing to gain and has nothing to do with happiness or unhappiness.

    But manythings are constantly stifling us and taking us away from that joy.

  30. Madhu says:

    Thanks Etienne for wishing me happiness.

    If we can find that which is stifling us, then we can avoid our attempts to commit suicide and can live in simple and yet with full of amusement.

  31. Madhu says:

    Even death of a loved one cannot touch the joy I am talking about.

    I am not idealistic. I hate to be idealistic.

  32. sulochanosho says:

    May our Madhu drown and float in the blessings and blisses of this Existence, which never exhausts; also includes our mundane pains or pleasures but beyond too.

  33. Madhu says:

    I had long conversations with John Waters through mails and he is a very interesting and profound person.

    He is quite earnest.

    sulochanosho adds:

    On net more than one by the same name ‘John Waters’ were there. I mean you are refering to…?

  34. Madhu says:

    The one indicated by the links you given earlier in one of the messages.

  35. Etienne says:

    The question that I try to drown in my unconscious but that always come back to the surface is, how can “all this”, the kosmos, have a primary cause, because to have a primary cause would mean that something existed beforehand, which brings us to an infinite regression of creation by a creator. That being said, the Occam razor would point us out the simpler situation, that of the consciousness, the witness, having existed forever, which we cannot understand yet and which deeply mystifies me.

    One way or another, one thing is sure, we cannot escape, even through suicide, and the prospect of participating in the evolution of consciousness, whatever grandiose and emancipator it may seem, gives me the feeling of being controlled, because I live in ego land.

    I don’t know if saying “I did not ask to be born” has any meaning.

  36. Madhu says:

    We talked so much, forgot to sing.
    We thought so much, forgot to be silent.
    We worked so much, forgot to play.
    We used and abused our minds so much, forgot to activate our heart.

    What else we can expect from us other than confusion, depression, frustration and bitterness.

  37. Madhu says:

    “Seriousness” is the real threat to joy and happiness.

    The more you are serious about ur life, the more you will become dry and barren.

    Be indifferent !!!!!!!!!!!!

  38. Madhu says:

    Thinking is ‘being frozen’ onto death.

  39. Madhu says:

    The essence of UG’s teachings is:

    “You have to find something for urself and by urself”.

    If we still seek something from UG and look up to him, we miss the whole point of what he said.

  40. sulochanosho says:

    Etienne raises there a very fundamental question of ‘primary cause’, and existence, which no answer can answer it.

    Rather my very personal and open inklings are like this:

    Ha, thank God, I am alive and thriving with LIFE! Let me sing like a cuckoo for no reason. Let me dine and dance. Let me cry a while. Let me sleep a while. Ha, isn’t it great!! I am still alive. Ha, vey lovely to be with Madhu and Etienne here! What to do our good friend, Ikuru is mysteriously missing! Ha, there the death-god is coming to kiss me. I am gone! bye, bye.

    For me life is just this. Absolutely nothing more than that!

  41. Etienne says:

    There must be something existing beyond our universe, beyond space and time, that is the cause of my existence right now, of my awareness at the very moment I am writing this sentence. This cause is beyond my comprehension, and it is in the ability to accept that that lies happiness.

  42. Madhu says:

    “What to do our good friend, Ikuru is mysteriously missing! “

    Ikuru jumped out of fast moving train and we are still moving in the train.

    Let us move with the train.

  43. Sanjay M says:

    Etienne, your words – that is the cause of my existence right now, of my awareness at the very moment I am writing this sentence – remind me of an excerpt from a book…

    Who is watching the show?

    When a schoolteacher writes “I” on a blackboard and asks the students what they see, most of them will answer that they see the word “I.” It’s rare for someone to say “I see a blackboard with ‘I’ written on it.” Just as the relatively huge blackboard is ignored in favor of a single letter, we ignore the Awareness that is the permanent background to all phenomena. We tend to ignore this in the same way that we forget the screen on which a movie is projected. It is the unchanging characteristic in all the movies we watch, but it never gets involved in the movie, as such. The movie may depict an ocean, a long winding road, a murder, or a forest fire; but the screen will not get wet, move from place to place, bleed, or burn. Likewise, Awareness remains pure and unaffected by its content.

    From:

    Who is watching the show?
    http://www.awakeningtothedream.com/

    (click on Reading -> Excerpts)

  44. Sanjay M says:

    If we are concerned about ‘ who created the world ? ‘ and ‘ why are we here ? ‘ then consider the parable of the poison arrow:

    Life is immediate and instant: here and now

    A man went to the Buddha insisting on answers to these questions , but the Buddha instead put a question to him : ” If you were shot by a poison arrow , and a doctor was summoned to extract it , what would you do ? Would you ask such questions as who shot the arrow , from which tribe did he come , who made the arrow , who made the poison , etc. , or would you have the doctor immediately pull out the arrow ? ”

    ” Of course ,” replied the man , ” I would have the arrow pulled out as quickly as possible.” The Buddha concluded, ” That is wise , for the task before us is the solving of life’s problems ; until the problems are solved , these questions are of secondary importance.”

    YES, Life does not depend on the knowing how we got here or what will happen after we are gone.

    Whether we hold these views about these things or not , there is still suffering , sorrow , old age, sickness , and death.

    And as I have said earlier about the problem of old age

    The title of this post, translated from Kannada means “how was I, and how have I become…”. This has been the single dominant muse of my grandparents for well over a decade.

    The problem referred to above is not that of old age itself, its a law of nature and not really a problem. But though everybody knows about the limitations of old age, its always a surprise when it actually happens. The problem only lies in the refusal to accept it.

  45. Madhu says:

    A nice article from Sanjay !!!!

    It makes us to see afresh the reality inside and outside us.

    Thank You, Sanjay !!!

  46. ikuru says:

    A Full-Blown New Avatar of Ikuru There:

    Dont know about this train buisness…
    I find myself full of living my own pressent life at the moment.
    No time for this.
    Life is too short for sitting around thinking about it. Whatever it is.
    Its better to do and to live, than to sit and to think.
    stop thinking start living
    what UG said.
    to do it.
    Get UG out of the way by doing what he said.
    Al he said was forget about this stuff and live you life.
    Make money.
    Live your life.

    stop thinking start living
    End up being obsessed by the doing.
    Let the doing consume you
    and forget about anything else.
    then you forget what is time
    and there is never boring ever more.
    let life absorb u.
    Animals with Imagination…
    We cant even imagine what immagination really is…
    The endless force creativety.
    Our own creation…
    I dont see a train.
    Just life being lived…
    Once you find yourself living…
    there is just no more time for the actual thinking…
    when Life consumes you there is just less room for the actual thinking.
    Once your in the creative process life absorb you.
    When life absorbs you that is the dominating force that flows in you.
    Thinking is secondary.

    Not interesting.
    Not part of your flow.
    When you flow with your life, you live your life.
    That is far more interesting than beeing with UG Krishnamurti.
    As a matter of fact…

    Living your life, is far more interesting than ANYTHING.

  47. Madhu says:

    He Became the Train:

    He (Ikuru) is neither inside the train nor outside the train but he “became” the train.

    The train which is not interetsted in thinking but in moving(acting).

    Bravo !!! Ikuru !!!!

    Unfortunately to me, the train stops here and there with the signals, i mean UG signals.

    I wish I could ignore the signals from him.

  48. sulochanosho says:

    Yes, it needs guts in your veins and spines to say,

    “Get UG out of the way…” “Live your life” as Ikuru shouts there, or “I wish I could ignore the signals from him (UG)”, as Madhu points out there.

    This exactly reflects the essence of UG, who debunked everything including a stuff called UG. That’s the way of LIFE. He crushed down at one stroke the ivory towers flourishing there in the name of holy shits like spirituality, moksha, hyped psychology, piped knowledge and experience balloons, gathered there for many many centuries.

    Let the Gurus stop liberating the gullible people all around there. Rather if they have guts, first let these Gurus liberate themselves from their ‘guru-craze-egos’.

  49. ikuru says:

    Hey Guys. I Just wanne point out that Im still in the same mess as ever. Migth be one thing less to worry about…

    You see the way I see it. UG was in a way a nice escape too for me.

    Like any other drug.

    Or like Meditation.

    I used to meditate to avoid myself. So then when u rule that out (the meditation for example) your life actually gets “worse” in a way.

    Cuz you no longer have that drug cushoun or safteynet to hold on to or find comfort in.

    Anyhow. Ups and downs.

    Once you get used to UG he too is nothing but a soothing comfort.
    Another nice way to avoid yourself.

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