UG: ‘Never Make Me A Religious Man’

March 24, 2010

The last thing UG wanted to happen is: creating a ‘religious UG’. He bombarded, he begged even in his death bed that‘Your body is interested only in two things – survival and fucking (procreation), and the rest is your culture shit or accumulated knowledge shit.’
-UG
 he should never be painted with any ‘religious shits’. UG lived it, UG stood for it even in the face of his death. Undo GodIn an otherwise sense of paradox, UG stands rather, for ‘Useless Guy’ as well as ‘Undoing God’. The essence of UG is as simple as that. UG always used to blast the whole deceptions of ‘religions and A sage is like a raging fire that burns everything and it knows not what is god or good or bad, and the ‘life’ stands there untouched and naked, roaring with all force.sermons’ with one sarcastic but very true line: ‘your body is interested only in two things – survival and fucking (procreation), and the rest is your culture shit or accumulated knowledge shit.’ There may be a pool of a bunch of scholastic twisters or a simple bunch of religious soldiers to relate and collate UG with / to Vedanta and such other holy religious ghosts – but UG never fits there and again it is an act of creating a ‘holy persona’ of UG, which the world has been doing from generation to generation. Hope, it should never happen with UG. UG always stands there naked. No one has a right to paint him. Naked UG is more beautiful than a painted UG.

A sage is like a raging fire that burns everything and it knows not what is god or good or bad, and finally or firstly Naked UG is more beautiful than a painted UG.the ‘life’ stands there “I am blocking every escape. Each outlet has to be blocked to put you in a corner. You must be choked to death, as it were. Only a real teacher can find that out and tell you, nobody else. Not those people who interpret the texts; all that is totally unrelated. Only such a man can talk. And such a man never encourages you because he knows that if this kind of thing has to happen to somebody, that person will not need the help of anybody. In spite of everything it will happen.”
– UG
untouched and naked, roaring with all force. UG never fits into any ‘descriptions’. UG is neither a theist nor an atheist. UG never fits into any labels or frames, rather he is an undefined flame. Even if we paint UG, a ghost of the species of UG is bound to create more havoc and holocaust there from that frame. UG is just UG. May the naked UG remain there to be watched by the generations to come. If it is not possible to ‘destroy’ or ‘demolish’ UG, the least and best thing to do is to keep the ‘naked’ UG there, not the painted one.

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“God is in the Vagina” – Sri Ramakrishna

February 23, 2010

Sri Ramakrishna PramahmsaSri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (1836 – 1886) is considered as one of the most respected spiritual masters of the modern time in India. The story or saying is that he attained the highest ‘nirvikalpa samadhi’, state. He empowered Swami Vivekananda as his most powerful disciple in the 20th century. He experienced ‘trances’ at the age of six. He was born to a poor but pious family in a village in Bengal, India. He never bothered to learn even to write his name, such an implicit ‘illiterate’ he was. Ducked and bunked the ordeals of school learning. He was a true ‘rebel’, but still remained rooted in the tradition of the soil and time. He took over the priesthood profession for his livelihood to worship Goddess Kali. He revolted against the senseless caste and class discriminations, in his own ways. He was initiated to other religions also – Islam, and Christianity. He has no qualms about the religions. Initially he was initiated into ‘tantra’ tradition by Bhairavi Brahmani, an orange-robed, middle-aged female ascetic; later on initiated into non-dual meditation and Vedanta. This is the briefest description that is given here just as a reminder about his holy personality.

Sri Ramakrishna was also known as a ‘tantrik’; he worshiped even his wife Sarada as Goddess. It is not unknown that many a class spiritual masters go eccentric and erratic (or erotic or mystic?) in their utterances, gestures and teachings. It is told that Ramakrishna used the most rustic, colloquial, classic, gross Bengali language to communicate or abuse with his disciples and people – in the larger mission of spreading the spiritual consciousness. He often used filthy, sexy words to convey the message of clarity. These masters or mystics often reveal ‘Vedanta’ in the very ‘vagina’, so to speak. They know not what is holy or unholy. It’s the middle class mortals and minds that drum beat and blow the siren of morals and holiness; and our Gurus make good ‘harvest’ out of it. Otherwise, God knows no bounds of morals or sermons. It seems, the morals are for the mortals, never for the immortal ones.

The teachings of Ramakrishna are preserved in the work called ‘Sri-Sri-Ramakrisna-Kathamrta’ compiled in Bengali by his house-holder devotee, Mahendranath Gupta. This book is more realistic and less filtered, it seems. But the English translation of this book was never a true translation or rather the translation was made to depict the Personality Ramakrishna as an ‘avatar’ and ‘holy’ person; or rather it was impossible to translate the ‘original’ as it is due to the best kept reasons or impulses.

All the above paragraphs I scribbled just after incidentally reading a passage from the book, ‘Stopped in Our Tracks’ (third series, on UG) originally compiled in Telugu by K. Chandrasekhar, a close long associate of UG, (translated in English by Narayana Moorty). There may be several scholarly great books available on UG, but my favorite passion is always, Chandrasekhar’s ‘Lost in Our Tracks’ (First series ; Second series ; and Third series), an informal inner circle open chit-chat or tidbits on UG and in UG’s own informal spontaneous words too. Many instant diamonds of wisdoms we may strike there in the jungle of informal UG journey in these books (first, second, and third series).

The random passage I got in this book (‘Lost in our Tracks: third series’) reads:

“God is in the Vagina” – Sri Ramakrishna

The other day, Guha was reading the Bengali original of Sri Ramakrishna Bodhamrtam, translating it into English for us. “I will remove all my clothes and dance before the women; what do you care about it?” Sri Ramakrishna had scolded one of his disciples. Guha continued, “God is in the vagina. God lets me see him in the copulation of two dogs.” Ramakrishna had used much more obscene and vulgar language [than this] in his conversations. But Nikhilananda, in translating, had corrected all that, changing it so that people would be presented with the image of a holy man to hold in their minds.

And another passage I happened to get from Chandrasekhar’s ‘Stopped in Our Tracks’ (first series) reads:

“The source for both God and sex is the same. As long as you think of God, there is always sex in its shadow,” says U.G. I now understand the value of this saying. But in those days I was very confused. “Why am I so deluding myself? The mind which freed itself from so many attractions, why is it pining so much for such a trifle? Is this a test? O Lord, please give me strength. Please get me out of this mire.” Just as I was praying thus, I felt that I was sinking deeper into the mire.

Some of the interesting passages taken from the article [Wikipedia] on Sri Ramakrishna are reproduced here:

The Bhairavi initiated Ramakrishna into Tantra. Tantrism focuses on the worship of shakti and the object of Tantric training is to transcend the barriers between the holy and unholy as a means of achieving liberation and to see all aspects of the natural world as manifestations of the divine shakti.

In 1866, Govinda Roy, a Hindu guru who practiced Sufism, initiated Ramakrishna into Islam. Ramakrishna said that he “devoutly repeated the name of Allah, wore a cloth like the Arab Moslems, said their prayer five times daily, and felt disinclined even to see images of the Hindu gods and goddesses, much less worship them—for the Hindu way of thinking had disappeared altogether from my mind.” According to Ramakrishna, after three days of practice he had a vision of a “radiant personage with grave countenance and white beard resembling the Prophet and merging with his body”.

At the end of 1873 he started the practice of Christianity, when his devotee Shambu Charan Mallik read the Bible to him. Ramakrishna said that for several days he was filled with Christian thoughts and no longer thought of going to the Kali temple. According to Ramakrishna, one day when he saw the picture of Madonna and Child Jesus, he felt that the figures became alive and had a vision in which Jesus merged with his body. In his own room amongst other divine pictures was one of Christ, and he burnt incense before it morning and evening. There was also a picture showing Jesus Christ saving St Peter from drowning in the water.

According to Malcolm Mclean, the principal source for Ramakrishna’s teaching is Mahendranath Gupta’s ‘sri-sri-ramakrisna-kathamrita’. Kripal calls it “the central text of the tradition”. The text was published in five volumes from 1902 to 1932. Based on Gupta’s diary notes, each of the five volumes purports to document Ramakrishna’s life from 1882–1886.

The main translation of the Kathamrita is The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna by Swami Nikhilananda. Nikhilananda’s translation rearranged the scenes in the five volumes of the Kathamrita into a linear sequence. Malcolm Mclean and Jeffrey Kripal argue that the translation is unreliable. Philosopher Lex Hixon writes that the Gospel is “spiritually authentic” and “powerful rendering of the Kathamrita”

Ramakrishna’s explicitly sexual language shocked 19th-century Westerners, even scholars Max Müller who were otherwise his admirers. Müller wrote that his language was at times “abominably filthy”. He admitted however that such direct speech was natural to contemporary hindus, “where certain classes of men walk stark naked”, and should not be considered intentional filthiness or obscenity. Citing examples of classical poems like Bhartrihari, the Bible, Homer, and Shakespeare, Müller felt that few of the sayings would have to be bowdlerized.

Many great thinkers including Max Müller, Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, Sri Aurobindo, and Leo Tolstoy have acknowledged Ramakrishna’s contribution to humanity. Ramakrishna’s influence is also seen in the works of artists such as Franz Dvorak (1862–1927) and Philip Glass.

Indologist Heinrich Zimmer was the first Western scholar to interpret Ramakrishna’s worship of the Divine Mother as containing specifically Tantric elements. Neeval also argued that tantra played a main role in Ramakrishna’s spiritual development.

Philosopher Lex Hixon writes Ramakrishna was an Advaita Vedantin. Postcolonial literary theorist Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak wrote that Ramakrishna was a “Bengali bhakta visionary” and that as a bhakta, “he turned chiefly towards Kali.” Amiya P.Sen writes that “it is really difficult to separate the Tantrik Ramakrishna from the Vedantic”, since Vedanta and Tantra “may appear to be differ in some respects”, but they also “share some important postulates between them”.

The dialogue between psychoanalysis and Ramakrishna began in 1927 when Sigmund Freud’s friend Romain Rolland wrote to him that he should consider spiritual experiences, or “the oceanic feeling,” in his psychological works. Romain Rolland described the mystical states achieved by Ramakrishna and other mystics as an “‘oceanic’ sentiment,” one which Rolland had also experienced. Rolland believed that the universal human religious emotion resembled this “oceanic sense.” In his 1929 book La vie de Ramakrishna, Rolland distinguished between the feelings of unity and eternity which Ramakrishna experienced in his mystical states and Ramakrishna’s interpretation of those feelings as the goddess Kali.

Christopher Isherwood who wrote the book Ramakrishna and his Disciples (1965) said in a late interview,”Ramakrishna was completely simple and guileless. He told people whatever came into his mind, like a child. If he had ever been troubled by homosexual desires, if that had ever been a problem he’d have told everybody about them.(…) His thoughts transcended physical love-making. He saw even the mating of two dogs on the street as an expression of the eternal male-female principle in the universe. I think that is always a sign of great spiritual enlightenment.”

Some scholars of Indian religion, including Narasingha Sil, Jeffrey Kripal, and Sudhir Kakar, analyze Ramakrishna’s mysticism and religious practices using psychoanalysis, arguing that his mystical visions, refusal to comply with ritual copulation in Tantra, Madhura Bhava, criticism of Kamini-Kanchana (women and gold) reflects homosexuality.

Jeffrey Kripal’s controversial Kali’s Child: The Mystical and the Erotic in the Life and Teachings of Ramakrishna (1995) argued that Ramakrishna rejected Advaita Vedanta in favor of Shakti Tantra. In this psychoanalytic study of Ramakrishna’s life, Kripal argued that Ramakrishna’s mystical experiences were symptoms of repressed homoeroticism.

Other scholars and psychoanalysts including Romain Rolland, Alan Roland, Kelly Aan Raab, Somnath Bhattacharyya, J.S. Hawley and Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak argue that psychoanalysis is unreliable and Ramakrishna’s religious practices were in line with Bengali tradition.

In his 1991 book The Analyst and the Mystic, Indian psychoanalyst Sudhir Kakar saw in Ramakrishna’s visions a spontaneous capacity for creative experiencing. Kakar also argued that culturally relative concepts of eroticism and gender have contributed to the Western difficulty in comprehending Ramakrishna. Kakar saw Ramakrishna’s seemingly bizarre acts as part of a bhakti path to God.

 


Matthew is in India on his UG Documentary Film Mission

December 12, 2009

We may remember that our friend Ikuru not long ago did mention elsewhere in the pages here about Matthew Dougherty’s adventurous project of creating a unique documentary film on U.G. Krishnamurti.

It is really amazing that a young guy, hardly 26 years of age, Matthew Dougherty who supposed to be peddling the Matthew Dougherty in Bangalorebest pleasures of life elsewhere in some other worldly luxury way, has taken up the mission of clicking a unique documentary film on UG. What attracted this guy to go for a ‘useless guy’ called UG is still a mystery. He started working on this project in September 2008. He has already visited the crucial places and people both in the US and Europe, in gathering and churning the UG essence and scenes. Looking at the zeal and the professional commitment and passion, and also the meticulous search and research that Mathew has been putting in, one can easily assume that this documentary on UG is going to be a unique as well as a well researched one towards spreading the UG ‘message of no-message’ to the world.

As scheduled, Matthew is already in India visitingAbout
Mr. MATTHEW DOUGHERTY:
New York based filmmaker Matthew Dougherty graduated from the New School University with a degree in philosophy. Matthew has contributed to numerous documentaries with an international scope as an Editor, Composer and Cameraman. Projects of note include MardiGras: Made in China which garnered over 30 awards and competed at The Sundance Film Festival; and the 2007 Danish documentary, The Battle for Rabbittown which has screened at some of Europe’s most prestigious film festivals. Matthew has directed many of his own short films and continues to work as a freelance editor and producer in New York City.
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the UG connected places and people and also sacred shrines and organizations on a shooting spree to have a first hand feel of the spiritual quest and UG ripples. He has already interacted with many people who literally rubbed their shoulders with UG when he was alive. Who is this UG? What is his message or no-message for the humanity? In a sense is it that UG points out very clearly how all our so called respected religions, sermons, and systems have just turned out to be a part of the ‘lies manufacturing industry’ (LMI). UG’s words quite often reveal the redundancy of our spiritual industry as well as science industry on many fronts in direct face to the ‘life force’. UG’s most simple straight stroke in all his ‘unholy sermons’ is that it is the ‘culture-knowledge debris’ that is censoring all our actions or perceptions and in the process the natural man is lost long back to the extreme extent of no return.

Matthew has already met and interacted with Mahesh Bhatt in Mumbai. Mahesh Bhatt recognizes the ‘rightly focused eye’ in Matthew in creating this unique documentary film on UG and has showered all praises for this guy. Mahesh senses that Matthew knows his ‘business’ well, in terms of getting into the sense and essence of UG. Mathew has also met Mr. Subhash Birla, an admirer and close associate of UG, and a Lawyer, Supreme Court of India, in New Delhi, among many people.

Now Matthew is in Bangalore at Mr. Chandrasekhar’s residence. Who else Mr. Matthew with Mr. Chandrasekhar and Mrs. Suguna, Bangalorecould be a better first hand resource person other than Mr. Chandrasekhar? So finally Matthew has ‘come home’ on this UG documentary mission with his encounter with Mr. Chandrasekhar and Mrs. Suguna – a perfect host couple to UG in Bangalore; and this was a small clean residence where UG stayed and chatted the most unholy sermons with the people gathered around him there, whenever Mr Matthew with Mr Jayarama Reddy, Bangalore, at Chandrasekhar's place.he made a visit to India. He never opted for a bigger palatial luxury bungalow. So now Matthew is busy interacting with many people here in Bangalore and gathering stories and sequences pertaining to UG. It’s his first visit to India; Matthew plans to be here in India till March 2010. He is fascinated by Ramana Maharshi and his teachings as well. He plans to visit Tamil Nadu and Kerala next; he has already covered the northern part of India.

We congratulate and wish all success to this adventurous guy, Mr Matthew Dougherty and his entire team, in creating and clicking this unique documentary film on UG. Hope it’ll be out by the end of 2010 to watch. It is really a thrill as well as a challenge to capture the real UG in a 90 minutes reel, indeed. It is more so because, UG may not easily fit into any story or system to capture him.

Here is a small glimpse of this forthcoming documentary film on UG by Matthew, accessible on YouTube link:

Contact Details:
Matthew Dougherty
Email: Matthew_Dougherty@yahoo.com
cell: 1 (917) 848-6254

Also Contact:
K. Chandrasekhar Babu
Email: sekharsug@yahoo.com


No Commandment But This Moment

November 20, 2009

But, my own
understanding is this, that whenever
commandments are
given they create
difficulties for people,
because by the time
they are given
they are already
out of date.
Life moves
so fast;
it is a dynamism,
it is not static.
It is not
a stagnant pool,
it is a Ganges,
it goes on flowing.
It is never
the same for two
consecutive moments.
So one thing
may be right this
moment, and may not
be right the next.
Then what to
do? The only
possible thing is
make people
so aware that they
themselves can
decide how to
respond to
a changing life.

– OSHO


The Very Happiness is the Hindrance

November 10, 2009

Who told you to be happy? There is no illusion greater than happiness. Happiness can neither happen, Happiness Persona nor one can attain it – you can only play and dream around ‘perfect happiness’, postponing the very gift of life. Life killers like philosophers, fiction-peddlers, spiritual messiahs may only vainly talk and write volumes and volumes of profound but never found thing called ‘happiness’. Life knows no happiness; life knows no unhappiness. Life has nothing to do with toys like happiness and unhappiness. Life is so self-expressing and flowing, it doesn’t need anything. Life is never short of anything.

All the so called hocus-pocus circuses, spiritual Popular ideas about happiness are misleading, inaccurate and are directly contributing to our current epidemic of stress, anxiety and depression. And unfortunately, popular psychological approaches are making it even worse!
– Dr Russ Harris
messiah techniques and sadhanas are at best mere phoney pebbles before the very face of life force. Our phoney spiritual gurus have perfectly polluted the humanity and this world beyond repair, and now it is business as usual for them. In a sense, a terrorist act is more fresh, fragrant and action-exploded, more live and life-friendly – it may shake life; but the so called ‘appears-to-be’ life-friendly sermons of attaining the unattainable ‘eternal freedom and bliss’ from our spiritual and philosopher messiahs are the worst kind of and most severe terrible blows to life force, ever played on this earth. Hard to see or speak, but it is the stark reality.

We say, ‘a flower is beautiful’. Flower cares nothing, it just does its job and forgoes. We say, ‘sun-rise there is beautiful’. Sun cares nothing, it just does its job and goes on. We say, ‘a bird is beautiful’. The bird doesn’t care anything, it just flies here and there; grubs on some nuts or fruits or worms, and fucks and freaks out, when it feels like it. That’s all life. Life is innocent, simple and mere survival, and there is not an iota of eternal or holy sermon in it.


The Only Truth

May 1, 2009

fotothing.comThe
Only
Truth
is
that there
is
No Truth.


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UG Gave No Last Scene to Mahesh Bhatt

March 29, 2009

UG is deadly to its hard core dead end.Mahesh Bhatt with UG, and Narayana Moorty UG tore apart all hopes, hypes, holy sermons and scriptures even in his death. Well one can easily doubt whether UG was Mahesh Bhatt’s mentor or monster. Equally Mahesh Bhatt also fought like a monster with UG till the end. The veteran Indian film maker and director Mahesh Bhatt was too obsessed to get the final message – rather “the final scene” from UG to click and build on the empire, but UG demolished all the holy hopes and said simply ‘No Message’. UG made his own death and end so simple and straight; and no sermons there to preach.

Mahesh Bhatt Monster Mahesh Bhatt!narrated this the other day with his UG friends and family at Chandrasekhar Babu’s residence, where UG used to come once in a year to chat and beat his unholy sermons with his friends. Ever since UG’s death on 22 March 2007, Mahesh Bhatt has made it a point to dash at Chandrasekhar’s place every year on that day. This time Mahesh said, “I have come from Mumbai to Bangalore toMahesh Bhatt reminded that UG used to say, ‘we are always interested in eating memories and we are in miseries. Life doesn’t care a bit of it.’ meet my family and friends – Mr Chandrasekhar Babu, Mrs. Suguna and all UG friends here. Nothing to do with calendar or ritual like things.” He ate and relished Dosa, a favorite mouth-watering South Indian dish, thanks to Mr. and Mrs. Chandrasekhar Suguna’s simple straight to heart hospitality.

Of course before eating Dosa, Mahesh Bhatt made a very emotional narration that he had with UG in his (UG’s) last departing days and death. Mahesh Bhatt experienced life in UG’s death. During those few days Mahesh Bhatt derives the most from UG, unlike his other long days of stint with UG. Nothing holy about it, but a whole lot of rare simple and plain insights there, that Mahesh Bhatt wants to yell out. Mahesh told that the whole account of this rare experience is coming out in the form of his new book, entitled ‘The Taste of Life’, from the Penguin Publishers, slated to be released next month, April 2009. UG took a hard view that, ‘the so called no-thought state talk is a biggest lie.’Mahesh Bhatt was very emphatic there to stress the point that UG demolished all the empire-like holy sermons, scriptures, religions and religious gurus. UG simply tore apart the holy empire of spirituality and put it in its natural naked and nude state – no perversion, no diversion there. Enough of centuries of chaining and choking of holy spirituality; and this was the ‘devilish act’ that UG did to this humanity.

On this occasion a Kannada versionChandrasekhar Babu with UG book of Mahesh Bhatt’s book ‘U.G. Krishnamurti: A Life’ was released. Another interesting aspect on this occasion was that an enterprising publisher Sonali DesaiMahesh Bhatt and Publisher Sonali Desai brought out a new well designed book entitled ‘UG Says’, containing rare UG sayings and photos. Mahesh Bhatt was too happy to release the book there. Another close associate and admirer, Mr Louis shared his experiences with UG and, told that he is bringing out his encounter and account of his insights in the form of a new book soon.

“UG doesn’t want, but UG admirers need it” – the informal gathering of UG admirers at Chandrasekhar’s residence on 22 March 2009 was an indication of that. Even his admirers from Italy and other places all the way flown down to Bangalore simply to ‘see’ that dead(ly) virus called UG.

View Album/Slide Show of the Occasion:
Mr K Chandrasekhar Babu has sent in a link, where he has put the best moments of the event in Photos; as all of us know, Chandrasekhar Babu is a meticulous archiver and best resource person on UG. His first hand encounter and experience with UG is amazingly quite vast. Here is the album link:
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