Being

October 24, 2011

Yet another book on UG is now available:

Being - Essays on UG Krishnamurti
Being
Essays on UG Krishnamurti and Other Topics
by Narayana Moorty

Free Download
beyondpoetry.com

“My aim in this book is to approach some of the issues without presupposing any religious or spiritual beliefs, taking a commonsense point of view and remaining always within the sphere of the known. The book should also demonstrate how I have translated, as best as I could, what I understand or learned from UG into my own life. Standing from such a ground of experience I have tried to chip away, as it were, bit by bit, at the unknown. Of course, you can never know the unknown. But what has been considered mystical or mysterious before could, at least to a minor degree, be unraveled. In my opinion, that was indeed what UG was trying to achieve as well.”
Narayana Moorty
Seaside, California

Also visit some other recent books on UG on this site:
(1) Goner: The Final Travels of UG Krishnamurti, by Louis Brawley
(2) The Biology Of Enlightenment: Unpublished Conversations Of U. G. Krishnamurti After He Came Into The Natural State (1967-71)
Edited by Mukunda Rao

(3) A Taste of life: the last days of UG. By Mahesh Bhatt [link1] [link2]

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This Dog is Barking: A Comic Epic on UG

October 24, 2011

Pic from Graphic Novel on UGA no non-sense, and no serious Comic Epic on UG (a graphic novel) is coming out soon thanks to the crazy non-stop zeal and fantasy of the devil’s duo, Nicolas C Grey – a comic artist,and James Farley – a text-writer. They have been working on it since almost a year or so and it may hit the stands now any time, may be in a few months. Seriousness is a seed of cancer and somehow that is knowingly or unknowingly seeded in all our holy scriptures and teachings. Life is simply to laugh. But we carry life as a log of long dead wood. UG’s utterances or barkings are not to be put in another holy epic and hence the affront effort of Nicolas and James in presenting UG and his barkings in a bare but bold comic graphics is much appreciated and it is fittingly more appropriate as well. It’s a cosmic comic there, so to say.

This Dog Barking – The Strange Story of UG Krishnamurti
Drawn by Nicolas C Grey
Written by James Farley

The following excerpts are reproduced here from their website, along with a few atypical sample graphics:

This Dog Barking (intro)

The iconoclast and ‘anti-guru’ UG Krishnamurti’s (1918 – 2007) only advice was that people should throw away their crutches and free themselves from the stranglehold of cultural conditioning and the tyranny of thought.

Nicolas and James with Chandrasekhar and Suguna in UG room, BangaloreThis Dog Barking – The Strange Story of UG Krishnaumrti chronicles the bizarre history of The Cosmic Naxalite; from his troubled childhood with the Theosophists and discipleship’s and subsequent disillusion with many of the leading spiritual teachers of the twentieth century, to his catastrophic personal life and years of homelessness and destitution in London and Paris.

In 1967 UG underwent his ‘Calamity’ – a series of biological mutations which left him in the ‘natural state’ – functioning without the interference of thought.

With no fixed address, no followers and no organization UG spent the next 30 years traveling the world and giving his uncompromising message that ‘mind is a myth’ and the human condition should be demystified and de-psychologized and viewed in purely physiological terms.

This Dog Barking (synopsis)

Beginning with his unconventional upbringing by the Theosophists in Madras, This Dog Barking tells the turbulent life-story of one of the most radical and unrecognized philosophers of the twentieth century.

Following the death of his mother from childbirth complications UG Krishnamurti spent his early life in the company of many of the period’s most influential gurus and spiritual masters. But his years with The Theosophists, Swami Sivananda, Ramana Maharishi and J Krishnamurti only served to convince him that the entire spiritual tradition was founded on dishonesty and delusion.

Similarly unimpressed by the insights offered by western philosophy and psychology, which he studied at Madras University, he opted for family life and married Kusuma Kumari. A decision he
regretted the day after the wedding.

In 1955 UG and Kusuma, together with their children left for a new life in America, where UG built up a successful career on the spiritual lecture circuit. However, he soon tired of this and in 1959 informed his wife that their marriage was over. A distraught Kusuma returned to India with the children,. Where she died a few years later following a period of mental illness.

UG meanwhile began a five year period of aimless wandering around Europe, supporting himself by giving tarot readings and Indian cookery lessons and living almost entirely on cheese.

He finally came to the end of the line in Geneva in 1965. With nowhere else to go, he presented himself as destitute to the Indian Consulate, where he and the 63 year old Embassy translator, Valentine De Kerven, struck up a friendship. Valentine gave up her job in order to support UG, and this unusual relationship was to continue until Valentine’s death in 2005.

In 1967 UG underwent his ‘calamity’ – a series of biological changes which left him in the ‘natural state’ – functioning without the unnecessary interference of thought.

For the next 30 years UG and Valentine traveled the world, staying with friends in America, India and Europe. Despite having no fixed address or any organization a steady stream of the curious, confused and bored would seek UG out in order to hear his uncompromising message that ‘mind is a myth’ and the human condition should be demystified and de-psychologized and viewed in purely physiological terms.

Pic from Graphic Novel on UGAs well as telling the life-story of UG, including, for the first time, details of his involvement with the Bollywood starlet Parveen Babi, This Dog Barking presents all of the key concepts in his anti-philosophy, exploring his ideas on the destructive nature of thought, the fallacy of cause and effect and the fundamental role of cultural and social conditioning in what we call our identity.

Nicolas C Grey’s haunting and beautifully detailed drawings capture both the personalities and atmosphere of UG’s life and times, and vividly bring to life his uncompromising, contrary and unbalancing conversational style.

Discomforting, irreverent, intimate and nihilistic, UG’s freewheeling and radical non-teaching undermines the very foundations of human thought, freeing the hearer from illusory goals and ‘the tyranny of knowledge, beauty, goodness, truth and God’.

(1) Nicolas and James have created a crazy Group on Facebook, all crazy nasty things they air and shoot there, in a funny non-serious way as part of this project.
(2) And another part of this mega comic crazy UG project is that they need lot of ‘monetary’ support too for the successful completion and they do need fun(d) raising, and for latest status and stuff of the project, please do visit their another website thisdogbarking.com
(3) You may visit also Nicolas Site
(4) This Dog Barking: on Facebbok

 


“God is in the Vagina” – Sri Ramakrishna

February 23, 2010

Sri Ramakrishna PramahmsaSri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa (1836 – 1886) is considered as one of the most respected spiritual masters of the modern time in India. The story or saying is that he attained the highest ‘nirvikalpa samadhi’, state. He empowered Swami Vivekananda as his most powerful disciple in the 20th century. He experienced ‘trances’ at the age of six. He was born to a poor but pious family in a village in Bengal, India. He never bothered to learn even to write his name, such an implicit ‘illiterate’ he was. Ducked and bunked the ordeals of school learning. He was a true ‘rebel’, but still remained rooted in the tradition of the soil and time. He took over the priesthood profession for his livelihood to worship Goddess Kali. He revolted against the senseless caste and class discriminations, in his own ways. He was initiated to other religions also – Islam, and Christianity. He has no qualms about the religions. Initially he was initiated into ‘tantra’ tradition by Bhairavi Brahmani, an orange-robed, middle-aged female ascetic; later on initiated into non-dual meditation and Vedanta. This is the briefest description that is given here just as a reminder about his holy personality.

Sri Ramakrishna was also known as a ‘tantrik’; he worshiped even his wife Sarada as Goddess. It is not unknown that many a class spiritual masters go eccentric and erratic (or erotic or mystic?) in their utterances, gestures and teachings. It is told that Ramakrishna used the most rustic, colloquial, classic, gross Bengali language to communicate or abuse with his disciples and people – in the larger mission of spreading the spiritual consciousness. He often used filthy, sexy words to convey the message of clarity. These masters or mystics often reveal ‘Vedanta’ in the very ‘vagina’, so to speak. They know not what is holy or unholy. It’s the middle class mortals and minds that drum beat and blow the siren of morals and holiness; and our Gurus make good ‘harvest’ out of it. Otherwise, God knows no bounds of morals or sermons. It seems, the morals are for the mortals, never for the immortal ones.

The teachings of Ramakrishna are preserved in the work called ‘Sri-Sri-Ramakrisna-Kathamrta’ compiled in Bengali by his house-holder devotee, Mahendranath Gupta. This book is more realistic and less filtered, it seems. But the English translation of this book was never a true translation or rather the translation was made to depict the Personality Ramakrishna as an ‘avatar’ and ‘holy’ person; or rather it was impossible to translate the ‘original’ as it is due to the best kept reasons or impulses.

All the above paragraphs I scribbled just after incidentally reading a passage from the book, ‘Stopped in Our Tracks’ (third series, on UG) originally compiled in Telugu by K. Chandrasekhar, a close long associate of UG, (translated in English by Narayana Moorty). There may be several scholarly great books available on UG, but my favorite passion is always, Chandrasekhar’s ‘Lost in Our Tracks’ (First series ; Second series ; and Third series), an informal inner circle open chit-chat or tidbits on UG and in UG’s own informal spontaneous words too. Many instant diamonds of wisdoms we may strike there in the jungle of informal UG journey in these books (first, second, and third series).

The random passage I got in this book (‘Lost in our Tracks: third series’) reads:

“God is in the Vagina” – Sri Ramakrishna

The other day, Guha was reading the Bengali original of Sri Ramakrishna Bodhamrtam, translating it into English for us. “I will remove all my clothes and dance before the women; what do you care about it?” Sri Ramakrishna had scolded one of his disciples. Guha continued, “God is in the vagina. God lets me see him in the copulation of two dogs.” Ramakrishna had used much more obscene and vulgar language [than this] in his conversations. But Nikhilananda, in translating, had corrected all that, changing it so that people would be presented with the image of a holy man to hold in their minds.

And another passage I happened to get from Chandrasekhar’s ‘Stopped in Our Tracks’ (first series) reads:

“The source for both God and sex is the same. As long as you think of God, there is always sex in its shadow,” says U.G. I now understand the value of this saying. But in those days I was very confused. “Why am I so deluding myself? The mind which freed itself from so many attractions, why is it pining so much for such a trifle? Is this a test? O Lord, please give me strength. Please get me out of this mire.” Just as I was praying thus, I felt that I was sinking deeper into the mire.

Some of the interesting passages taken from the article [Wikipedia] on Sri Ramakrishna are reproduced here:

The Bhairavi initiated Ramakrishna into Tantra. Tantrism focuses on the worship of shakti and the object of Tantric training is to transcend the barriers between the holy and unholy as a means of achieving liberation and to see all aspects of the natural world as manifestations of the divine shakti.

In 1866, Govinda Roy, a Hindu guru who practiced Sufism, initiated Ramakrishna into Islam. Ramakrishna said that he “devoutly repeated the name of Allah, wore a cloth like the Arab Moslems, said their prayer five times daily, and felt disinclined even to see images of the Hindu gods and goddesses, much less worship them—for the Hindu way of thinking had disappeared altogether from my mind.” According to Ramakrishna, after three days of practice he had a vision of a “radiant personage with grave countenance and white beard resembling the Prophet and merging with his body”.

At the end of 1873 he started the practice of Christianity, when his devotee Shambu Charan Mallik read the Bible to him. Ramakrishna said that for several days he was filled with Christian thoughts and no longer thought of going to the Kali temple. According to Ramakrishna, one day when he saw the picture of Madonna and Child Jesus, he felt that the figures became alive and had a vision in which Jesus merged with his body. In his own room amongst other divine pictures was one of Christ, and he burnt incense before it morning and evening. There was also a picture showing Jesus Christ saving St Peter from drowning in the water.

According to Malcolm Mclean, the principal source for Ramakrishna’s teaching is Mahendranath Gupta’s ‘sri-sri-ramakrisna-kathamrita’. Kripal calls it “the central text of the tradition”. The text was published in five volumes from 1902 to 1932. Based on Gupta’s diary notes, each of the five volumes purports to document Ramakrishna’s life from 1882–1886.

The main translation of the Kathamrita is The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna by Swami Nikhilananda. Nikhilananda’s translation rearranged the scenes in the five volumes of the Kathamrita into a linear sequence. Malcolm Mclean and Jeffrey Kripal argue that the translation is unreliable. Philosopher Lex Hixon writes that the Gospel is “spiritually authentic” and “powerful rendering of the Kathamrita”

Ramakrishna’s explicitly sexual language shocked 19th-century Westerners, even scholars Max Müller who were otherwise his admirers. Müller wrote that his language was at times “abominably filthy”. He admitted however that such direct speech was natural to contemporary hindus, “where certain classes of men walk stark naked”, and should not be considered intentional filthiness or obscenity. Citing examples of classical poems like Bhartrihari, the Bible, Homer, and Shakespeare, Müller felt that few of the sayings would have to be bowdlerized.

Many great thinkers including Max Müller, Mahatma Gandhi, Jawaharlal Nehru, Sri Aurobindo, and Leo Tolstoy have acknowledged Ramakrishna’s contribution to humanity. Ramakrishna’s influence is also seen in the works of artists such as Franz Dvorak (1862–1927) and Philip Glass.

Indologist Heinrich Zimmer was the first Western scholar to interpret Ramakrishna’s worship of the Divine Mother as containing specifically Tantric elements. Neeval also argued that tantra played a main role in Ramakrishna’s spiritual development.

Philosopher Lex Hixon writes Ramakrishna was an Advaita Vedantin. Postcolonial literary theorist Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak wrote that Ramakrishna was a “Bengali bhakta visionary” and that as a bhakta, “he turned chiefly towards Kali.” Amiya P.Sen writes that “it is really difficult to separate the Tantrik Ramakrishna from the Vedantic”, since Vedanta and Tantra “may appear to be differ in some respects”, but they also “share some important postulates between them”.

The dialogue between psychoanalysis and Ramakrishna began in 1927 when Sigmund Freud’s friend Romain Rolland wrote to him that he should consider spiritual experiences, or “the oceanic feeling,” in his psychological works. Romain Rolland described the mystical states achieved by Ramakrishna and other mystics as an “‘oceanic’ sentiment,” one which Rolland had also experienced. Rolland believed that the universal human religious emotion resembled this “oceanic sense.” In his 1929 book La vie de Ramakrishna, Rolland distinguished between the feelings of unity and eternity which Ramakrishna experienced in his mystical states and Ramakrishna’s interpretation of those feelings as the goddess Kali.

Christopher Isherwood who wrote the book Ramakrishna and his Disciples (1965) said in a late interview,”Ramakrishna was completely simple and guileless. He told people whatever came into his mind, like a child. If he had ever been troubled by homosexual desires, if that had ever been a problem he’d have told everybody about them.(…) His thoughts transcended physical love-making. He saw even the mating of two dogs on the street as an expression of the eternal male-female principle in the universe. I think that is always a sign of great spiritual enlightenment.”

Some scholars of Indian religion, including Narasingha Sil, Jeffrey Kripal, and Sudhir Kakar, analyze Ramakrishna’s mysticism and religious practices using psychoanalysis, arguing that his mystical visions, refusal to comply with ritual copulation in Tantra, Madhura Bhava, criticism of Kamini-Kanchana (women and gold) reflects homosexuality.

Jeffrey Kripal’s controversial Kali’s Child: The Mystical and the Erotic in the Life and Teachings of Ramakrishna (1995) argued that Ramakrishna rejected Advaita Vedanta in favor of Shakti Tantra. In this psychoanalytic study of Ramakrishna’s life, Kripal argued that Ramakrishna’s mystical experiences were symptoms of repressed homoeroticism.

Other scholars and psychoanalysts including Romain Rolland, Alan Roland, Kelly Aan Raab, Somnath Bhattacharyya, J.S. Hawley and Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak argue that psychoanalysis is unreliable and Ramakrishna’s religious practices were in line with Bengali tradition.

In his 1991 book The Analyst and the Mystic, Indian psychoanalyst Sudhir Kakar saw in Ramakrishna’s visions a spontaneous capacity for creative experiencing. Kakar also argued that culturally relative concepts of eroticism and gender have contributed to the Western difficulty in comprehending Ramakrishna. Kakar saw Ramakrishna’s seemingly bizarre acts as part of a bhakti path to God.

 


Pissing and Super Consciousness

December 21, 2009

Life
is
always
full
in our
smaller
acts
like
pissing,
never
in the
so called
super
consciousness
state.


Body is God, Nothing Beyond

August 7, 2008

GURU=URUG

GURU=URUG

We have exchanged enough of UG garbages or sermons in that sense, under UG: A Unique Guy, the very first post of this forum. UG was very adamant and one-pointed in his utterances and convictions. We find no split of ‘mind versus body’ stance in him. For him everything is a non-split one entity. He debunked all splitting spirituality, philosophy, sermons and religions – because a made of or mode of UG just can not ‘see’ any ‘sense’ there, rather all these stuffs are good enough to sermonise, philosophise and commercialize without an iota of glimpse of life force there.

For UG everything is a body phenomenon – no holy sermons required there. No guru has any business there. Our body is embodied with everything that is needed. For we people it’s very hard to digest or conceive. But UG just ‘sees’ it, ‘lives’ it. He is not putting any intellectual efforts – borrowed or otherwise, to ‘see’ the things, to ‘say’ the things. He shatters all our sense and logic at one stroke. UG often says that he incidentally entered upon a new biological transformation state without any effort or expectation from his side – which he says is beyond words and explanations; it is simply acausal. He says, I dont see any psychology there. He simply says mind is myth. He says we are trapped under the borrowed accumulated holy sermons and experiences and there remains no knowledge or experience that truly of an individual. Everything is perverted and converted.

It’s true that it is very hard to digest UG for us. But UG was very adamant in his convictions and seeings till the very last breath of his life. Even in a split of second UG never splits his one-pointed state of seeing. For UG all the holy words are the most ugly and dirty scars on the face of humanity. He always used to say in the most gross terms that our body is interested only in two things: survival and fucking. All the rest is mere empty philosophies and sermons, which can only make the people swerve from the life force there, in their vain search of a mirage there up in the heaven.

The following Video link on UG’s parting message from his ‘death’ bed may make this point very clear:


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Scrap those Crap Psychologists and Psychiatrists

December 20, 2007

There is no second thought that the contribution of our psychologists and thinkers in their devout attempt to understand the life and behaviour of the humanity is great – whether it is Freud fries your Sex Libido Sigmund Freud’s (‘Sick Mind Fraud’) Psychoanalysis (‘sexoanalysis’) or Pavlov’s Conditioned Learning (‘dog’s saliva’) or Positive (‘pose’) Psychology or Existential (‘extinct’) Psychology or in terms many (e)merging current innovative psychological thinking (‘stinking’) theories. But all great things are not necessarily great when the paradigm of the flow of our life and existence is focussed in its totality – no one can stand there. Life is always beyond these defined theories and boundaries of ‘Psychology’. ‘Psychology’ can never touch LIFE. Our psychologists and psychotherapists are dangerously playing with the ‘lives’ of the humanity.

This great army of bookish, hawkish, rhetoric, repetitive and robotic psychologists in the name of ‘healing’ is always harming and fooling the life force and the humanity at large. Our outer psychologists and psychiatrists are so programmed and trained that they can never touch the subtle petals or layers of life – they are there profoundly programmed and stuck to play with the grosser layers of the lives of the people. Today the so called ‘psychology and psychiatry sermon-like junks’ are so much pumped in our daily life style that even a common man has forgotten to know that he has a biology and body there! It’s a dangerous situation there. First thing first – the simplest reality is that we are biology and body imbibing with tremendous force of intelligence and sensibility. Our body and biology are so unique that they never need to learn the so called ‘junk psychology’ from the mouths of psychologists and psychiatrists – it’s an insult and assault to our body force and life. Even the so called Biological Psychology floated by the psychologists, would tend to study the human beings in a robotic and so called scientific ‘lab rat’ way.

It may appear that our psychologists and psychotherapists are playing a very vital role in the maimed world there, but it is not so when conceived from a larger perspective of our life force and existence.

Today our psychology and psychiatry industries are so well founded and established that we can never escape from their iron clutches and claws. On the sidelines it is construed that the ‘psychology elements/ evils’ are in great demand by the politicians, the priests and the commercial establishments to tame and maim the minds of the people, in the larger run of harvesting the ‘vested/ twisted interest’.

We understand, U.G. Krishnamurti was very vocal, vociferous and aggressively inimical in rejecting this so called ivory tower ‘psychology stuff’ forced on the life. We do need a rethinking, just not to be carried away by many ‘profound junks’ that are unintentionally or otherwise floated on our life.

Our small dissenting voice here may appear amusing and abusing. But many similar voices are already there – things are bound to emerge. Randomly one or two links are given below in support of this singular minority view:

Antipsychiatry
Why Psychiatry has Failed?
Dr. Tana Dineen: a renegade psychologist
Are We Manufacturing Victims? by Dr. Tana Dineen
Psychoanalysis & Sigmund Freud: A skeptic’s view of Psychoanalysis


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