God never spoke

August 30, 2011

God spoke notGod never spoke; only the Gurus spoke.
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Foes are Friends too: Osho’s Tribute to J. Krishnamurti

May 18, 2010

The beauty or the freedom with the masters is that two masters may never agree with each other and instead they indulge and enjoy the ‘game’ of abusing each other profusely. It is to be construed more as a ‘joyous play’, less as a ‘serious play’. It also happened among Osho, J. Krishnamurti, and U.G. Krishnamurti – a classic case here.

In the following excerpts, Osho speaks on the peak of J. Krishnamurti (11 May 1895 – 17 February 1986):

Death of the mystic, J. Krishnamurti,
Osho’s tribute

J. Krishnamurti died last Monday (17 February 1986), In Ojai, California. In the past you have spoken of him as another enlightened being. Would you please comment on his death?

The death of an enlightened Jiddu Krishnamurtibeing like J. Krishnamurti is nothing to be sad about, it is something to be celebrated with songs and dances. It is a moment of rejoicing. His death is not a death. He knows his immortality. His death is only the death of the body. But J. Krishnamurti will go on living in the universal consciousness, Forever and forever.

Just three days before J. Krishnamurti died, one of my friends was with him; and he reported to me that his words to him were very strange. Krishnamurti was very sad and he simply said one thing: “I have wasted my life. People were listening to me as if I am an entertainment.” The mystic is a revolution; he is not entertainment.

If you hear him, if you allow him, if you open your doors to him, he is pure fire. He will burn all that is rubbish in you, all that is old in you, and he will purify you into a new human being. It is risky to allow fire into your being—rather than opening the doors, you immediately close all the doors.

But entertainment is another thing. It does not change you. It does not make you more conscious; on the contrary, it helps you to remain unconscious for two, three hours, so that you can forget all your worries, concerns, anxieties—so that you can get lost in the entertainment. You can note it: as man has passed through the centuries, he has managed to create more and more entertainments, because he needs more and more to be unconscious. He is afraid of being conscious, because being conscious means to go through a metamorphosis.

I was more shocked by the news than by the death. A man like J. Krishnamurti dies, and the papers don’t have space to devote to that man who for ninety years continuously has been helping humanity to be more intelligent, to be more mature. Nobody has worked so hard and so long. Just a small news article, unnoticeable—and if a politician sneezes it makes headlines.

What is your connection with Krishnamurti?

It is a real mystery. I have loved him since I have known him, and he has been very loving towards me. But we have never met; hence the relationship, the connection is Something beyond words. We have not seen each other ever, but yet…perhaps we have been the two persons closest to each other in the whole world. We had a tremendous communion that needs no language, that need not be of physical presence…. You are asking me about my connection with him. It was the deepest possible connection—which needs no physical contact, which needs no linguistic communication. Not only that, once in a while I used to criticize him, he used to criticize me, and we enjoyed each other’s criticism—knowing perfectly well that the other does not mean it. Now that he is dead, I will miss him because I will not be able to criticize him; it won’t be right. It was such a joy to criticize him. He was the most intelligent man of this century, but he was not understood by people.

He has died, and it seems the world goes on its way without even looking back for a single moment that the most intelligent man is no longer there. It will be difficult to find that Jiddu Krishnamurtisharpness and that intelligence again in centuries. But people are such sleep walkers, they have not taken much note. In newspapers, just in small corners where nobody reads, his death is declared. And it seems that a ninety-year-old man who has been continuously speaking for almost seventy years, moving around the world, trying to help people to get unconditioned, trying to help people to become free—nobody seems even to pay a tribute to the man who has worked the hardest in the whole of history for man's freedom, for man's dignity.

I don’t feel sorry for his death. His death is beautiful; he has attained all that life is capable to give. But I certainly feel sorry for the whole world. It goes on missing its greatest flights of consciousnesses, its highest peaks, its brightest stars. It is too much concerned with trivia.

I feel such a deep affinity with Krishnamurti that even to talk of connection is not right; connection is possible only between two things which are separate. I feel almost a oneness with him. In spite of all his criticisms, in spite of all my criticisms—which were just joking with the old man, provoking the old man…and he was very easily provoked…. Krishnamurti’s teaching is beautiful, but too serious. And my experience and feeling is that his seventy years went to waste because he was serious. So only people who were long-faced and miserable and serious types collected around him; he was a collector of corpses, and as he became older, those corpses also became older.

I know people who have been listening to him for almost their whole lives; they are as old as he himself was. They are still alive. I know one woman who is ninety-five, and I know many other people. One thing I have seen in all of them, which is common, is that they are too serious.

Life needs a little playfulness, a little humor, a little laughter.

Only on that point am I in absolute disagreement with him; otherwise, he was a genius. He has penetrated as deeply as possible into every dimension of man’s spirituality, but it is all like a desert, tiring. I would like you back in the garden of Eden, innocent, not serious, but like small children playing. This whole existence is playful. This whole existence is full of humor; you just need the sense of humor and you will be surprised…. Existence is hilarious. Everything is in a dancing mood, you just have to be in the same mood to understand it.

I am not sorry that J. Krishnamurti is dead; there was nothing more for him to attain. I am sorry that his teaching did not reach the human heart because it was too dry, juiceless, with no humor, no laughter.

But you will be surprised to know—whatever he was saying was against religions, was against politics, was against the status quo, was against the whole past, yet nobody was condemning him for the simple reason that he was ineffective. There was no reason to take note of him….

Krishnamurti failed because he could not touch the human heart; he could only reach the human head. The heart needs some different approaches. This is where I have differed with him all my life: unless the human heart is reached, you can go on repeating parrot-like, beautiful words—they don’t mean anything. Whatever Krishnamurti was saying is true, but he could not manage to relate it to your heart. In other words, what I am saying is that J. Krishnamurti was a great philosopher but he could not become a master. He could not help people, prepare people for a new life, a new orientation.

But still I love him, because amongst the philosophers he comes the closest to the mystic way of life. He himself avoided the mystic way, bypassed it, and that is the reason for his failure. But he is the only one amongst the modern contemporary thinkers who comes very close, almost on the boundary line of mysticism, and stops there. Perhaps he’s afraid that if he talks about mysticism people will start falling into old patterns, old traditions, old philosophies of mysticism. That fear prevents him from entering. But that fear also prevents other people from entering into the mysteries of life….

I have met thousands of Krishnamurti people—because anybody who has been interested in Krishnamurti sooner or later is bound to find his way towards me, because where Krishnamurti leaves them, I can take their hand and lead them into the innermost shrine of truth. You can say Oshomy connection with Krishnamurti is that Krishnamurti has prepared the ground for me. He has prepared people intellectually for me; now it is my work to take those people deeper than itellect, to the heart; and deeper than the heart, to the being.

Our work is one. Krishnamurti is dead, but his work will not be dead until I am dead. His work will continue.

The above excerpts are sourced and reproduced from the [link].

Some Links:
(1) An Overview of Krishnamurti’s Life and Work
(2) The Core of the Teachings
(3) Jiddu Krishnamurti [on Wikipedia]


Height of Discourses

May 15, 2010

WisdomMany of the so called pedantic discourses are mere pediatric shits.
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Pissing and Super Consciousness

December 21, 2009

Life
is
always
full
in our
smaller
acts
like
pissing,
never
in the
so called
super
consciousness
state.


A Taste of Life in Bangalore

July 3, 2009

Finally Mahesh Bhatt is serving “Taste of Life” in BANGALORE too:

Penguin Books India

and

CROSSWORD

cordially invite to the launch of

A
TASTE OF LIFE
THE LAST DAYS OF
U.G. KRISHNAMURTI

by Mahesh Bhatt

on friday 10 July 2009 at 6.30 p.m.

at Crossword Bookstore
ACR Towers, 32 Residency Road
Opposite Gateway Hotel
Bangalore

Well-known author Mukunda Rao

will be in conversation with Mahesh Bhatt

Mrs Suguna and Mr Chandrasekhar with friends, A Taste of LifeHere’s the Slide Show of the proud event of launching the book, ‘A Taste of Life: the last days of UG’ in Bangalore, happened on 10 July 2009:


The Eccentric Essence

July 9, 2008

UG Garbage
UG ESSENCE:
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“My mission, if there is any, should be, from now on, to debunk every statement I have made. If you take seriously and try to use or apply what I have said, you will be in danger.”
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“I have no teaching. There is no teaching to preserve. Teaching implies something that can be used to bring about change. Sorry….there is no teaching here, just disjointed, disconnected sentences.”
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“It would be more interesting to learn from children, than try to teach them how to behave, how to live and how to function.”
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“Until you have the courage to blast me, all that I am saying, and all gurus, you will remain a cultist with photographs, rituals, birthday celebrations and the like.”
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“I may sound very cynical, but a cynic is really a realist. Cynicism will help you to have a healthy look at the way things are going on in the world.”
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“The fact is that we don’t want to be free. What is responsible for our problems is the fear of losing what we have and what we know. All these therapies, all these techniques, religious or otherwise, are only perpetuating the agony of man.”
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“Nature is interested in only two things–to survive and to reproduce one like itself. Anything you superimpose on that, all the cultural input, is responsible for the boredom of man.”
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“My interest is not to knock off what others have said [that is too easy], but to knock off what I am saying. More precisely, I am trying to stop what you are making out of what I am saying.”
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“Anything I do to help would only add to your misery–that is all. By continuing to listen to me you merely heap one more misery upon those you already have.”
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“All I can guarantee you is that as long as you are searching for happiness, you will remain unhappy.”
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“I don’t have any thoughts which I can call my own–not one thought, not one word, not one experience.”
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“Boredom is a bottomless pit. As long as you think that there is something more interesting, more purposeful, more meaningful to do than what you are actually doing, you have no way of freeing yourself from boredom.”
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“When your inner demand to be something different than what in fact you are comes to an end, then the neurotic demand to change your society ceases. You are in perfect harmony with society, including its brutalities and miseries.”
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“The United Nations is the biggest joke of this century. If each one is trying to assert his own rights there, how can there be a United Nations?”
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“Understanding yourself is one of the greatest jokes perpetrated not only by the purveyors of ancient wisdom–the holy men–but also the modern scientists. The psychologists love to talk about self-knowledge, self-actualization, living from moment to moment, and such rot.”
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“Atmospheric pollution is most harmless when compared to the spiritual and religious pollution that have plagued the world.”
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“The plain fact is that if you don’t have a problem, you create one. If you don’t have a problem you don’t feel that you are living.”
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“You actually have no way of looking at the sunset because you are not separated from the sunset. The moment you separate your self from the sunset, the poet in you comes out. Out of that separation poets and painters have tried to express themselves, to share their experiences with others. All that is culture.”
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“By using the models of Jesus, Buddha, or Krishna we have destroyed the possibility of nature throwing up unique individuals.”
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“Anything that happens in space and time is limiting the energy of life. What life is I don’t know; nor will I ever.”
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“All experiences, however extraordinary they may be, are in the area of sensuality.”
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“What I am saying is a threat to society as it is presently organised. The way I am thinking, functioning, and operating is a threat to the present society.”
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“I am not in conflict with the society. I am not interested in changing it. The demand to bring about a change in myself isn’t there anymore. So, the demand to change the world at large is not there. I suffer with the suffering man and am happy with the happy man…”
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“The extraordinary intelligence of the biological organism is all that is necessary for good living, but we are all the time interfering with its natural operation through the medium of thought.”
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“The biological instinct is very powerful, and the fear of extinction, not love or compassion, will probably be the savior of mankind.”
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“I have views on every damned thing from disease to divinity. But my views are of no more importance than those of the maid cleaning and cooking there.”
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“Food, clothing and shelter- these are the basic needs. Beyond that, if you want anything, it is the beginning of self-deception.”
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“All these godman, gurus and flunkies are offering us a new oasis. You will find out that it is no different from other mirages.”
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“That messy thing called ‘mind’ has created many destructive things. By far the most destructive of them all is God.”
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“‘Be selfish and stay selfish’ is my message. Wanting enlightment is selfishness. Charity is selfishness.”
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“When the movement in the direction of becoming something other than what you are isn’t there any more, you are not in conflict with yourself.”
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“The total absence of will and the total absence of effort, all and every kind, may be called an effortless state–but that effortless state is not something that you can achieve through effort.”
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“Anything you experience based on knowledge is an illusion.”
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“They can spend millions and millions of dollars and do every kind of research to find the seat of human consciousness, but there is no such thing as the seat of human consciousness at all. There is no such thing as seat, located in any particular individual. What is there is thought.”
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“If you listen to me year after year, you are only clarifying your thoughts. It’s useless.”
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“To be yourself requires extraordinary intelligence. You are blessed with that intelligence; nobody need give it to you; nobody can take it away from you. He who lets that express itself in its own way is a ‘Natural Man’.”
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“There is no such thing as truth. The only thing that is actually there is your ‘logically’ ascertained premise, which you call truth.”
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“The line of demarcation between the mystic and the madcap is very thin. This one–madcap–is a clinical case and the other is on the way.”
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“Inspiration is a meaningless thing. Lost, desperate people create a market for inspiration. All inspired action will eventually destroy you and your kind.”
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“To be yourself is very easy, you don’t have to do a thing. No effort is necessary. You don’t have to exercise your will, you don’t have to do anything to be yourself. But to be something other than what you are, you have to do a lot of things.”
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“A normal person lives in his illusions. A mad cap lives in his hallucinations. A man in the ‘natural state’ has neither of them.”
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“A ‘moral man’ is a frightened man- chicken hearted man; that is why he practices morality and sits in judgement over others.”
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“Unless you are free from the desire of all desires, Moksha, liberation, or self-realisation, you will be miserable.”
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“The so called self-realization is the discovery for yourself and by yourself that there is no self to discover. That will be a very shocking thing because it’s going to blast every nerve, every cell, even the cells in the marrow of your bones.”
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“Why should life have any meaning? Why should there be any purpose to living? Living itself is all that is there. Your search for spiritual meaning has made a problem out of living.”
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“Spirituality is the invention of the mind, and the mind is a myth.”
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“Whenever such a thing [enlightenment] happened, it happened to those people who had given up completely and totally all their search. That is an absolute requisite for that kind of a thing.”
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“A murderer, a con man, or a rapist has as much chance if not a better chance than all the holymen and spiritual aspirants put together.”
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“You do create me. I don’t create you for the simple reason that I don’t have any image of myself.”
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“We never look at anything. It is too dangerous to look because that ‘looking’ destroys the continuity of thinking.”
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“You have to touch life at a point where nobody has touched it before.Nobody can teach you that.”
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“Physical fear is totally different from the fear of losing what you have, the fear of not getting what you want. You call this psychological fear.”
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“Consciousness is so pure that whatever you are doing in the direction of purifying that consciousness is adding impurity to it.”
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“There may not be any such thing as consciousness at all, let alone the subconscious, the unconscious, and all the other levels of consciousness.”
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“All gurus are welfare organizations providing petty experiences to their followers. The guru game is a profitable industry; try and make two million dollars a year any other way.”
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“You are trying to enforce peace through violence. Yoga, meditation, prayers, mantras, are all violent techniques. The living organism is very peaceful; you don’t have to do a thing. The peacefully functioning body doesn’t care one hoot for your ecstasies, beatitudes, or blissful states.”
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“All that is necessary for the survival of this living organism is already there. The tremendous intelligence of the body is no match for all that we have gathered and acquired through our intellect.”
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“When I talk of a total anarchy, it is a state of being and not a state of doing. There is no action there. May be out of that something new will emerge.”
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“Thought can never capture the movement of life, it is much too slow. It is like lightning and thunder. They occur simultaneously, but sound, travelling slower than light, reaches you later, creating the illusion of two separate events.”
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“I think the solution to your real problems is, in any case, not possible for you unless you undergo the sort of biological transformation that has happened to me.”
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“The problem with language is, no matter how we try to express ourselves, we are caught up in the structure of words. There is no point in creating new language, a new lingo, to express anything. There is nothing there to be expressed except to free yourself from the stranglehold of thought.”
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“The profound statements of the great teachers are not any different in the different religions. All I am saying is that looking to alien lands and religions does not mean anything.”
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“What I am trying to point out is simply that your spiritual and religious activities are basically selfish.”
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“All revolutions are nothing but reevaluations of our value systems. You only replace one system with another system.”
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“It is fear that makes you believe that you are living and that you will be dead. What we do not want is the fear to come to an end. That is why we have invented all these new sciences, new talk, therapies, choiceless awareness and various other gimmicks.”
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“Every time a Godman appears on the stage he is adding momentum to all the chaos that already exists, and we are slowly moving in the direction of destroying ourselves.”
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“This body is a perfect piece that has been created by nature. In this assemblage of the species of human beings on this planet one being is endowed with the intelligence of an Einstein, another is endowed with the brawn of a Tyson, and someone else is endowed with the beauty of a Marilyn Monroe. I can’t conceive any possibility of all the three blooming in one individual–brain, brawn and beauty.”
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“Your highly praised inventiveness springs from your thinking, which is essentially a protective mechanism. The mind has invented both religion and dynamite to protect what it regards as its best interests.”
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“Real silence is explosive; it is not the dead state of mind that spiritual seekers think. This is volcanic in its nature; it’s bubbling all the time–the energy, the life–that is its quality.”
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“We think that thoughts are there inside of us. We think that they are self-generated and spontaneous. What is actually there is what I call a thought-sphere. The thought-sphere is the totality of man’s experiences, thoughts, and feelings passed on to us from generation to generation.”
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“Everything that is born out of thought, every discovery you have made so far is used for destructive purposes. Every invention of ours, every discovery of ours is pushing us in the direction of total annihilation of the human species.”
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“We have no future at all as long as we try to get the answers from the past that is dead. Anybody who says,”Look back or go back,” has no answers to offer us.”
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“The peak of sex experience is the one thing in life you have that comes close to being a first-hand experience; all the rest of your experiences are second-hand, somebody else’s.”
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“This[Natural State] is a state in which questioning has stopped. It has stopped because those questions have no relation to the way the organism is functioning, and the way the organism is functioning leaves no room for questions.”
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“Life has to be described in pure and simple physical and physiological terms. It must be demystified and depsychologized.”
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“When you know nothing, you say a lot. When you know something, there is nothing to say.”
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“The human organism is not interested in your wonderful religious ideas–peace, bliss, beatitude or any such thing. Its only interest is survival. What society has placed before us as the goal to reach and attain is the enemy of this living organism.”
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“All the accumulated knowledge, experience, and suffering of mankind is inside you. You must build a huge bonfire within you. Then you will become an individual. There is no other way.”
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“Cabbages are more alive than human beings.”
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“As a human body it is an extraordinary piece of creation. But as a human being he is rotten because of the culture.”
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“God is the figment of man’s fertile imagination.”
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“You are more useful to the Nature dead than alive.”
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“Anything you want to be free from for whatever reason is the very thing that can free you.”
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“I am not interested in using, influencing or changing anybody. This is a statement on what I am, how I lived, nothing more. This will not be of any tremendous value for mankind and should not be preserved for posterity. I don’t believe in posterity.”
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“If, when this body is buried, the memories people have of me are also buried along with it , that will be the end of me.”
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Gurus: the best businessmen of the era

April 7, 2007

Spirituality Boom

In the recent times many self-declared Spiritual Gurus are born like mushroom amidst us and they are looked upon as great solace by the mass of gullible people, who are more ‘peace and nirvana hungry’, because their stomachs are full and now looking for something beyond, you know it. These self-proclaimed enlightened Gurus have taken many new “avatars” like Corporate Gurus, Instant Gurus, Mobile Gurus, Global Gurus, you name it, you will find them.

One Guru (I don’t want to name) who has overnight become Global Guru, whose only mantra is to “breathe in and breathe out” (great new invention of him!) is now eyeing to grab Nobel Prize for his Peace/Piece work across the globe! This is the height of the mockery of spirituality. As long as gullible people are there, this kind of Gurus can flourish their business to a peak height. They can not only fool the mass of people but also the people at power. I have never heard a spiritual seeker or a spiritual seer hankering after titles and honours and enjoying it like these modern day self-styled gurus.

Second-hand knowledge of the self gathered from books or gurus can never emancipate a man until its truth is rightly investigated and applied; only direct realisation will do that. Realise yourself, turning the mind inward.Tripura Rahasya, 18: 89

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Just today (05 May 2007), I came across a blog on some Sri Sri Sri or She She She! One thing that really pained me there is that the disciples of a so called enlightened soul, reacting in such a “bastardly way”! I doubt, whether they are doing ‘sudarshan kriya’ or ‘rakshash kriya’; they don’t have a simple openness to accept an alternative view. If somebody calls a true monk as ‘monkey’, the monk just laughs with that guy and goes – because the whole world knows that the poor monk is not a monkey! It’s so simple. These so called enlightened souls/gurus are creating another kind of ‘subtle goondas’ around us, it seems! Anyway, hypocrisy is not good for the health of this world.

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